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MSNBC
Oct 6, 2012 8:00am EDT
in tax cuts that favor the wealthy and yet the fellow on the stage last night looked like mitt romney said he did not know anything about that. >> also on thursday mitt romney took another huge step in his unfolding journey of self-discovery. speaking to shawn hennessy on fox news he repudiated the infamous 47% comments he made in may. >> in this case i said something that was just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100% and that's been demonstrated throughout my life and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president it will be about helping the 100%. >>> all right. 100%. we're all in on the 100%. first let me throw it up to you guys. we've been chewing over the debate performance. i think my own take, that the president did not perform well in the debate. that's a real novel take on my part. that's what you tuned in for at home. but i don't think he performed as catastrophically poorly as other people seem to think he did. that's more or less where i'm at. maybe that's not great insightment for real hot talk. >>
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 1:00am EDT
went out and rescued general motors. we went ahead and made sure we cut taxes for the middle class and in addition to that, when that occurred, what did romney do? romney said, no, let detroit go bankrupt. we moved in and helped people refinance their homes. governor romney said, no, let foreclosures hit the bottom. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. my friend recently in a speech in washington said 30% of the american people are takers. these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with, my neighbors. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. they are elderly people who, in fact, are living off social security. they are veterans and people fighting in afghanistan right now who are, quote, not paying any taxes. i've had it up to here with this notion that 47% of -- it's about time they take some responsibility here. and instead of signing pledges to grover norquist not to ask the wealthiest among us to contribute to bring back the middle cla
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 2:00am EDT
are overcharging. he has to attack on the issue of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, romney is at 47%. i think the president, the fundamental structure of the race hasn't been changed, but if he doesn't go on the attack, if biden doesn't do a good job against ryan, and if the president doesn't show up and isn't strong in the second debate, then you're going to have a tossup race. >> well, i would disagree with your approach, first of all. i don't approach it that way. that's going back and relegating all the old arguments. in spirit what i would do, unlike shrumy, i would take the big issue that is separating the candidates, don't get into the little trench warfare about what's your t
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 4:00pm EDT
. who do you trust on this? they're saying no, they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut to the super wealthy. just get out of the way. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsible responsible for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. have you ever seen me rope-a-dope. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how like me now ♪ how you like me now >> he came, he saw, and he told the truth, and the great pretender, paul ryan, was exposed after a no holds barred full out slugfest of a debate with vice president joe biden last night. and for democrats across the country, it is tgi biden, a man who brought the fight to congressman ryan with a huge heart and lethal honesty on everything from medicare to taxes, abortion, middle class opportunity, and foreign policy. and this afternoon the vice president landed in ryan's home turf of wisconsin hungry for more action going after romney/ryan on the 47%. >> the
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 5:30am EDT
. at the same time that my tax plan has already lowered taxes for 98% of families, i also lowered taxes for small businesses 18 times. and what i want to do is continue the tax rates, the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families. >> i talked to a guy who has a very small business. he is in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes. federal income, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, property tax cab gas tax, over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. >> what is main street's reaction? we have two of our most outspoken regulars here to discuss. phil cowan, an invest adviser, entrepreneur and best selling author. you can find him at rule 1 investing.com. carol roth, you can find her at carolroth.com. >> good to see you. >> you too, j.j. >> i think it is clear that romney ran all over president obama. from a small busin
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 11:00am EDT
the federal panel that supports unfair burden against the poor, allotting it to a poll tax, they said this was a poll tax and would be voter suppression in texas and would not be happening there. like they are utilizing in other states. >> okay. so -- in the state of rhode island which i think -- my home state which is pretty controlled by the democratic party, they didn't see too much outrage there when they did it. i think when you look at every poll that's ever come out, 70% to 80% of americans support this, so i think that somehow equate showing a photo i.d. which in most states is given -- free if there is an issue with the person's economic condition, then somehow requiring people to show the same type of thing had would be required to get government assistance and get on an airplane and try government building and is actually a common sense move to ensure we maintain the integrity -- >> the basic right of an american isn't to fly, is it? >> i don't understand your question. >> your basic american right in certain things is to be able to vote. >> i don't understand how -- e
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 6:00pm EDT
offering. the centerpiece of governor romney's economic plan is a new $5 trillion tax cuts that favors the wealthiest americans, but most of the economists who have crunched the numbers said that paying for governor romney's tax plan -- one or the other. pick your poison. last week when we were on stage together. governor romney just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention for that tax cut under the carpet, behind the curtain. >>> romney's pretending his tax cut plan doesn't exist, but the president won't let him get away with it. he also won't let him get away with hitting the middle class to protect his own tax rate. >> governor romney said it's fair he pays a lower tax rate than a teacher or autoworker who makes $50,000. he is wrong. i refuse to ask middle-class families to give up their deductions for owning a home or raising their kids, just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i refuse to pay for that tax cuss by asking you students to pay more for college or kicking kits out of headstart or eli
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 3:00pm EDT
don middle-class taxes. take a listen. >> the middle class will pay less and people making a million or more will begin to contribute slightly more. >> there aren't enough rich people in small businesses to tax them for all their spending. the next time you hear that, watch out, middle class. the tax bill's coming to you. >> edward isaac, how does a voter make sense of this? what's the truth on taxes? >> well, that's one of the essentiaquestions of the cam paint that's what the obama campaign is saying about this. but what the romney/ryan campaign says about the obama plan is they have not done anything to say where the spending would be cut, to say where they're going to be doing things to reduce the deficit, and that's going to fall on middle-class families so it's a question of philosophy here, whether you think there is enough and other things he says he'll do to cut spending in the budget to make up the money that would be lost in revenue from that 20% across the board tax cut or whether you believe that the plan that president obama is saying to say that there should be cut for
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 10:00am EDT
different questions -- >> i'm going to call him a liar now. no. talking about the tax plans at the rallies. he was saying the same things on wednesday night and the other piece about how -- >> let me stop you there. i want to read to you if i can about a fact check about the tax. not cutting taxes for the wealthy. in the primary, cut taxes for everyone including the top 1%. suspect that a change? >> no, it's not. he's been saying the entire time that while he would be in favor of an across the board tax c of 25% for every taxpayer, those making over a certain amount of money he would close tax loopholes so their overall taxes that they pay and the overall tax plan would be tax neutral. i mean, it would be revenue neutral. the other piece is you mentioned this other story -- >> the story is specifics, hasn't it? >> i'll keep going back to this to seep the record straight. you all talking about this story that mitt romney had been saying and reported in other places that this is a new softer side of mitt romney. he's been telling that story for months. and so, i mean, this is all jus
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 1:00am EDT
american people being unwilling to take responsibility. 82% of them pay their payroll taxes and other taxes and at an effective rate higher than romney pays his taxes. over 10% of them are senior citizens on social security. the rest are disabled vets and veterans and military personnel fighting now. that's the 47%. the 47%, this nation depends on to build this country. folks, it's about time governor romney takes some responsibility. [ cheers and applause ] take some responsibility to help the american people, the middle class. instead of lining up to sign a pledge to a guy named grover in order kwis. >> ezra, i have to say for me one of my favorite moments in the debate was with him pointing out theffective rate romney pays compared to what other people in the real world pay. i'm not sure how many people jumped on that a as their favorite moment but. >> you and me, lawrence. >> but biden is finding more effective ways of isolating that romney tax return 14% number. >> it wasn't just that. biden i thought actually figured out what obama didn't figure out a week before which is how to
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 1:00pm EDT
romney will raise taxes on the middle class. mitt romney has no chance of raising taxes on the middle class. his republican base would kill him. the concept of raising taxes on the middle class will never happen. >> if not, something has to give. then he can't deliver tax cuts. >> you can come up with a tax reform plan. increased revenue that takes down the rates, makes it fairer everybody. it's difficult, but you can do it. >> you can't take the rates down 20% though on top of the bush tax cuts. >> romney said, i have reform principles. they are going to help grow the economy and create jobs but the idea he can raise taxes is fanciful. he'll never do it. >> if you are going to cut taxes for the wealthy as much as mitt romney wants to there is no way or he would have put forth the pro growth plan. he's ring on magic like harry potter will be his treasury secretary. >> he's not going to be able to cut taxes for rich people. he doesn't want to. the idea of pro growth taxes -- >> didn't he say 20% across the board? >> he did, but he also said if you take up the deductions, rich pe
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 6:00pm EDT
of abortion? do we deliver tax cuts? it's important that the president do this for the basic reason that people in this country know what they are voting for and if they decide against. and that's "hardball" for now. "politicsnation" with al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks, chris, and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, no hiding from biden. for months mitt romney and paul ryan have been running from their records, hiding their extreme far right agenda behind platitudes and big promises, trying to pin them down on specifics was like trying to nail jello to the wall. but that all stopped last night. we'll talk about all of it in the show tonight, how vice president biden took the fight to paul ryan on issue after issue. on taxes, on medicare, on abortion, on their plan to privatize social security and to gut medicare. joe biden simply dismantled the romney/ryan world view. but also talk about how the right wingers are trying to make a big deal out of joe biden's smile. so what? i would have been outright laughing in paul ryan's face. joe biden was fed up and who could b
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 10:00am EDT
to say continually that mitt romney proposed a $5 trillion tax cut. when his own campaign -- they said we can get $3.8 trillion from deductions. that would only make it a $1.2 trillion tax cut. that could made up with economic growth. president obama continues to say it's $5 trillion. even his spokeswoman has said it's not a $5 trillion tax cut. >> this is interesting, diane. bill, i think she brings up an interesting distinction between birtherism as you point out, i think that's accurate. certainly you don't have a majority of american services are not birthers, but there's enough of it infecting the sort of the american discourse right now that it becomes a leedge it talking point. >> it's not being talked about now. the birthers are not on the front page of the newspapers. you can't judge people by the fringe groups. >> i got to say, when you have presidential candidates -- i'm going to give you that it's a fringe. i'm going to give you that. for example, that mitt romney is not a birther. there does seem to be a distinction between for example those kinds of aspects or questi
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 10:00pm EDT
to get elected. >> at the debate he said he's not going to cut taxes for the wealthy. in the primary he said he's going to cut taxes for everyone. >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans. isn't that a change? >> let me repeat what i said. >> lying, denying and alibiing. >> is that leadership? >> we can't debate the debate. >> the war continues. >> let's move on. >> we are awaiting a major foreign policy address. >> romney boiled down the president's foreign policy to one of hope. >> hope is not a strategy. >> but on actual foreign policy romney's specifics were rather thin. >> i'll support the libyan's people efforts to support a lasting government. >> how about iran? >> prevent them from acquiring nuclear weapons capability. >> that's the same. >> this is the same guy who couldn't even go to the olympics. >> he will say anything, he will do anything. >> his mention of russia. >> without question of number one geo political foe. >> there are two kinds of success, initial and ultimate. >> i still believe you in and i hope you still believe in me. if you vote for
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 4:00am EDT
to go back to a failed economic theory of tax cuts for the very rich, despite the fact that he denied the existence of tax cuts or the existence of math. the notion that let's go to war on wall street -- go to war with "sesame street" but give wall street a big wet kiss. that's exactly what got us into this mess. >> that's not what they saw. i get the interpretation. you have a campaign to win. but what they saw was one guy who seemed to be someone they'd never seen before. he shattered the fiction of the advertising. he was a guy brimming with new ideas and energy. and they saw the president of the united states sleep walking. >> mike, i don't think -- >> let me finish. the tired contrast rang a bell. romney has ideas, and the president has no vision for his second term. and i think that's what hurt him. >> mike, i don't doubt this was someone they had never seen before. i think there were people in the romney campaign who had never seen this candidate. a week ago paul ryan was asked to explain the math of a $4.8 trillion tax cut. and he said i don't have time. mitt romney sai
MSNBC
Oct 11, 2012 10:30pm EDT
spending, more borrowing, higher taxes, a government takeover of health care. it's not working. it's failed to create the jobs we need. 23 million americans are struggling for work today. 15% of americans are in poverty. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt romney and i want to earn your support. we're offering real reforms for a real recovery for every american. mitt romney, his experience, his ideas, his solutions is uniquely qualified to get this job done. at a time when we have a jobs crisis in america, wouldn't it be nice to have a job creator in the white house? the choice is clear. a stagnant economy that promotes more government dependency, or a dynamic growing economy that promotes opportunity and jobs? mitt romney and i will not duck the tough issues. and we will not blame others for the next four years. we will take responsibility and we will not try to replace our founding principles. we will reapply our founding princip principles. the choice is clear. and the choice rests with you. and we ask you for your vote. thank you. >> and thank yo
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 4:00pm EDT
pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> now, that was the president waxing incredulous while former president bill clinton last night, well, he went full clintonian, painting the picture of how mitt's transformation went down. >> the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that's how he described himself. for two whole years. until three or four days before the debate they got together and said, hey, this ship is sinking faster than the titanic so show up with a sunny face and say, i didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. what are you doing? >> i think he actually caught air there. and it's no wonder with romney suddenly shifting on all marng of positions, lately it's a woman's right to choose. here he is to "the des moines register" on tuesday. >> there's no legislation with regarding -- with regards to abortion that i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> funny. around this ti
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 2:00pm EDT
raise your taxes about $2 trillion over the next four years. so what i would say is what we learned about paul ryan is he is thoughtful, he understands the budget better than anybody else, and that the top issue facing the country isn't bain capital, isn't mitt romney's tax returns, it isn't big bird, it's how to get the greatest country on earth out of debt and back to work. and when you look at 23 million americans unemployed, $16 trillion in debt, doubling gas prices, no coherent energy strategy, it's clear to me that the romney-ryan ticket had the only blueprint to get us out of this mess. we're not going to -- four more years of the same policies will get four more years of the same results. >> i think what we learned about paul ryan is he is as good as his boss at obfuscating what their plan is. he could not answer how he was going to pay for this $5 trillion lowering of the tax rates. he couldn't list a single deduction, a single loophole, that they would close, except he said we would go to congress. now, what they're saying is that we're not going to tell you, we're going t
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 3:00am EDT
don't think cutting taxes or preking the wealthy is the way to go. >> i was lucky enough to find a job at the beginning of the summer, but it's really difficult to find a job when you're a college student. >> interesting. those students were in line to get tickets for president obama's speech later this week at the university of miami. in 2008, senator obama beat senator john mccain by 2 to 1 in the margin in the youth vote in this country. it's crucial for the president to get similar numbers this time around if he's going to win the state of florida. of course, to vote they must be registered and voter registration drives have been underway for months. according to statistics from the zx 2.8 million people are registered as independents or with a third party. the numbers are interesting, but it means nothing if there's no emotional component that will motivate them to do it. this is why the debates are so important in today's information culture. there must be a real emotional appeal by president obama if he's to succeed in getting these voters out to the polls. the best registra
MSNBC
Oct 7, 2012 8:00am EDT
. >> encouraging small business growth lowered taxes for small bidses. through small businesses. 97% of small businesses. >> it's small businesses. a guy who has a small business. successful small businesses. >> those small businesses. >> all the praise for small businesses and their owners obscures the questions we should ask. what counts as a small business and what is their role in the u.s. economy? many of these small businesses talked about are anything but small. in order to avoid paying income taxes, they use sole propriet proprietorships and s-corporations. the owners file the profits on individual tax returns making the term small business about the number of owners rather than anything else. as a result, these small business owners include partners of hedge funds. also, donald trump. >> under governor romney's definition there are a bunch of millionaires and billionaires who are small businesses. donald trump is a small business. i know he doesn't like to think he's small anything, but it's how you define small businesses to get business income. >> this term is driving me nut,
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 10:00am EDT
businesses to tax to pay for all their spending. so the next time you hear them say, don't worry about it, we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch out, middle class. the tax bill's coming to you. >> michael, what was your take on the debate? >> i went back and read the transcript of the debate after it was over. if you go through point by point, it's amazing how often biden bests ryan on the actual merits of the policies they are talking about. i do think for the actual discussion was so complicated though, i do think a lot of people are going to take away from this debate whatever they came into the debate. it's hard to follow in realtime what they were saying about libya or tax policy. so you end up taking away the body language. whether you like joe biden or don't like joe biden and the polls show the country divided on that and people feel hot one way or the other, you would like his gesticulation. democrats needed to turn the page on the last debate with the president. take real punches at republican talking points and set the stage for obama on tuesday. the
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 10:00pm EDT
. >> these are people who pay no income tax. 47% of people pay no income tax. so our message of low taxes doesn't connect. he'll be out there talking for tax cuts of the rich. so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them that they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. krystal ball, i don't know. that sounds to me like it's a description of how he would be as president. so my job is not to worry about those people? >> well, he may have contempt for you, but that doesn't mean he's going to act like he has contempt for you when he's president. obviously, when he was in that particular room, he was telling the people in that room that that's exactly who he would be as president. and i think what we see from mitt romney is who he is and what he says is all dependent on the expediencies of the moment. if we had a president romney, he would mostly be held hostage by a republican congress who was p
MSNBC
Oct 12, 2012 9:00am EDT
dan quayle. >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve -- >> not mathematically possible. >> it is possible and it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they
MSNBC
Oct 5, 2012 10:00pm EDT
more efficient tax code, get the deficit down over time. that that will help you. when you give them truth serum, you're talk and you off the record, the disruption might be tough for the first few months. but they would argue that the longer term, since we're on the right track would be worth it. that's not an argument you see in the debates. it's not the way the argument gets framed. but that's the core ideological dispute in the election. >> on the other side that's been surprising is president obama, they don't talk about their big idea on the jobs. they don't talk about the jobs act. they didn't bring it up in the debates. why do you think that is? because that is a big responsive, a big idea on jobs here. >> there's a great new book called the "new new deal" about the stimulus that came out in 2009 and was almost $8 hundred billion saying it was a great success. it did a lot of things to help this recession from being worse. it's something that the president's political advisers, they do the polling. it does not resonate with swing voters. people look around and say we're
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 5:00am EDT
taxes and president obama. >> they will ultimately have to raise taxes on middle income families by $4 million a year. >> reporter: since last week's debate, which romney is widely regarded as having won, both sides argued the other was dishonest. >> he was a little taken aback at the brazenness with which governor romney walked away from so many of the positions on which he's run. >> reporter: their truth war now on tv. >> not telling the truth about mitt romney's tax plan. >> this was dishonest. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. >> the governor knows his $5 trillion tax cut isn't too popular, so a few weeks before the election, he's trying to pretend it doesn't exist. >> reporter: president obama at a star-studded fundraising concert in los angeles sunday heads to san francisco today with romney's poll numbers improving. >> they're looking very good. i feel very good. >> reporter: after the debate, romney is within two points of the president. and tomorrow, both candidates head to ohio, battleground ohio, where early voting is already under way. tomorrow is the last da
MSNBC
Oct 10, 2012 10:00am EDT
being less than honest about his tax cut plan. >> governor romney decided instead of changing his plan he just pretended it didn't exist. what $5 trillion tax cut? i don't know anything about a $5 trillion tax cut. pay no attention to that tax cut under the carpet. >> romney's campaign continuing a blitz of ohio today denying that he's a new moderate but here is what he told the des moines register yesterday. when asked about his agenda on abortion. >> there's no legislation regarding -- with regards to abortion i'm familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> joining me now, "usa today's" washington bureau chief susan page and "time" assistant managing editor. good morning, both of. >> did you good morning. >> susan, romney's statement appeared to be away from the democrats tried use against them and campaign quickly issued a statement saying mitt romney is pro-life. what is going on with the romney message? >> well, i think romney is -- governor romney is definitely trying to pivot to the middle. we were waiting to do this last spring and early summer when he clinched t
MSNBC
Oct 8, 2012 5:00pm EDT
because he denied the path he has chosen, denied the big tax cut from 35% down to 28% for people at the top bracket. the all-out elimination of the estate tax, the big-time cut in the corporate rate. he do denied his plan to limit nate medicare, denied he would kill coverage for those with pre-existing conditions. he got away without bolterring to deny his plan to let the automobile industry to go bankrupt and to dump 40 million people to wait in the energy ro emergency room. let's look at the some of the latest polling in the wake of wednesday's debate. this afternoon pew released a poll that showed a dramatic shift toward romney. this poll covers the four days sibts the debate and it has romney pulling even with president obama among registered voters, 46% even. four weeks ago pew had obama up by nine among registered voters, so this has been a huge shift in the pew poll. the move in the pew poll towards romney is greater among likely voters. romney is surging ahead to 49%. four weeks ago obama led among likely voters by eight. now to the latest gallup tracking poll which covers the l
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 12:00pm EDT
. first up to the president's new tv ad that strikes a familiar theme. hitting mitt romney on his tax plan. take a listen. >> you paid 14% in federal taxes. that's the capital gains rate. is that fair to the guy who makes $50,000 and paid a higher rate than you did? so you think it is fair. >> yeah. i think it's the right way to encourage economic growth. >> lower tax rates for him, then us. is that the way to grow america? >> well, expect that one seen on a tv screen near you especially if you're in a swing state. from mitt romney and the gop meanwhile a new ad strategy. the "new york post" says romney and his colleagues are looking at a high rate high media strategy. pro romney ad buys double and even tripled in some key swing states this week. >>> later today paul ryan wrapped up a campaign rally just a few short hours ago. he echoed a theme we heard in the debate friday night. >> the president had his chance. he had his choices. he came in with one-party rule. able to do everything on his own choosing. and just look at where we are now. 23 million americans are struggling for work
MSNBC
Oct 13, 2012 5:00am EDT
not a subtle sort of tax policy nuance. this is about having the choice to have an abortion and the dialogue that goes on between a woman and her doctor. and it was clear that the romney/ryan ticket is in a place that the obama/biden ticket is not. >> well, you made a point that i like to make. we can argue about a lot of issues, as i said. there were a lot of issues debated last night like benghazi, which are vitally important, but not exactly a voting issue. a voting issue is an issue like gun rights to some people who are hunters or sportsmen. they will vote on that issue alone. a lot of women, not just single women, many women are watching very carefully what these male politicians are saying about their rights, and that's how they vote sometimes. >> well, indeed, and as well they should. it's tempting to say that, well, paul ryan might be the extremist here, mitt romney, he's the reasonable guy and he's at the head of the ticket. that's exactly what paul ryan is saying now. well, it's romney's ticket so -- >> depends which day of the week. >> yeah, exactly. but actually mitt ro
MSNBC
Oct 9, 2012 9:00pm EDT
that by cutting taxes? >> those are your words, not mine. >> thank you very much, sir. >> that was kind of strange. trying to stuff words in people's mouths? >> it it sounds like you're -- >> ryan folks putting the paper in front of the camera and everything. vice presidential nominee paul ryan getting annoyed in this interview with terry camp in flint, michigan. the campaign even after the interview was over still went out of their way to trash the reporter that paul ryan walked out of that interview on. the campaign given on the record quotes calling the reporter an embarrassment. the city where that reporter works and where that interview took place does have the worst violent crime rate in the nation. so that line of questioning here for mr. ryan was understandable. maybe even predictable. but beyond the newsworthiness of paul ryan getting up and taking off his microphone and ending the interview and beyond the newsworthiness of the campaign going after this reporter, there was what that reporter was able to elicit from paul ryan. there's his prescription for what it takes to g
MSNBC
Oct 14, 2012 7:30am EDT
with the most favorable small business tax benefit. what state should we consider? >> i don't think it comes from where you register. it's where the business is headquartered. if you are in nevada, florida, texas where there are favorable tax treatments, that's great. where you register, it doesn't matter. >> that's right. as you continue to grow your business, you will think about where to put different businesses. so you might have one office someone. distribution might be set up somewhere else and negotiate about tax credits, bringing jobs to the area. tax is something you want to have experts involved in and look at every aspect of your business. >> that was my next question, how do you figure this out? >> a tax expert. it's very complex. >> thank you both so much. this is fantastic advice. if you have a question for our experts, all you have to do is go to our website. it's openforum.com/yourbusiness. once you get there, hit the ask the show link to submit a question. again, it's openforum.com/yourbusiness. or, if you would rather send an e-mail, it's yourbusiness@msnbc.com. >>
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Oct 6, 2012 10:00am EDT
last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> okay. that was good but it's a little bit like sending an e-mail to your opponent in a game of dozens a day after. everyone has left the playground. you have to get in your licks while there are more than 70 million viewers watching. it was frustrating to see president obama miss repeated opportunities to correct factual inaccuracies spouted by romney. president obama, for example, did not add almost as much to the federal debt as all the prior presidents combined. and when mr. romney suggested that half of the green energy companies given stimulus funds had failed, that's only true in 3 is half of about 30. there was that sense also, that the president just didn't really want to be there. it was hard to get a fierce sense of urgency from the president on wednesday night. yes, it did look bad. all the rope-a-dope wednesday morning metaphors couldn't have changed how bad it looked. there is one thing you could say about the first debate, its
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Oct 11, 2012 3:00am EDT
on choice, on pre-existing conditions, on tax cuts for the rich, is all a deception designed to trick people into voting against themselves. >> so, terry, it seems like mitt romney will do the bidding of the fundamentalists like tony perkins if he becomes president? >> i think he will, but i think it's his own bidding too. i think it was important of you to show that clip of him bullying during the debate in 2002. that is the way he is with women. the stories that have emerged out of massachusetts, where he tried to bully a woman who was -- whose pregnancy was actually threatening her life. she had -- she and her husband had gotten permission from the mormon church elders to terminate this life-threatening abortion. he went in and tried to intimidate her into not terminating this -- that pregnancy. that is the way he is with women. and he -- so my sense of him is that he will lie without conscious, because it's the same thing, as intimidating and bullying. it's manipulation, it's just doing whatever he wants to do in order to get what he wants. >> sure. let's watch what conservative c
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Oct 8, 2012 12:00pm EDT
numbers. don't like the tax policy numbers, find your own. there is a lot of that going on. >> in fairness i think what mitt romney said is defensible in the sense that, in fact, we have seen millions of people drop out of the labor force. if they hadn't dropped out and they seem to have because -- some is anyonie i aging but a l find jobs. that's a fair thing to say. >> he's on stage alan west who on friday suggests this was part of leftist radicalism at work and part of the chicago machine manipulating labor statistics. >> indeed. then there are the crazy people. >> that speaks volumes. >> he probably didn't pick the appearance knowing what the jobs figures would be. i think it's fair to say the economy has been bachltd obama doesn't have much to do with it. th president can't do that much to control the economy. but four years ago obama got to run saying, they drove it into the ditch, i can drive it out. then it turns out he can't. now the next guy gets to say, i can drive it out. he also can't drive it out, but this is the ritual every four oh eight years as someone promises t
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Oct 5, 2012 11:00pm EDT
this big discussion about the bush tax cuts. the republicans are so far off their game right now their reaction today should have been well we told president obama to extend the bush tax cuts. you can't raise taxes on the job creators. they don't even know their own talking points. what do they do now? they come out and accuse the president and the bureau of labor statistics of cooking the books. what is the new 7.8 unemployment mean for obama's campaign strategy moving forward to get him re-elected? what does this mean for him? >> well, it gives him an opportunity to really paint the picture that we didn't do, he didn't do effectively in the debate. to me, now the stakes for the next debate become really critical. the president is a town hall format. the president needs to go in there and not allow governor romney to set the debate or control the debate or use facts that aren't real. he needs to sit there and look governor romney in the eye and say listen. you sit there and tell the american people they're not better off. tell the 5 million people that have jobs today that they're not
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Oct 14, 2012 8:00am EDT
worker? what we have heard so far is that his plan is to cut taxes. there's a lot of research that shows of the 50 states, the state that is have the highest incomes have significantly higher tax rates than the states with the lowest wages. there's an inverse relationship at the national level between producing good jobs at high pay and tax rates. so, it seems to me, if the policy suggestion is cut taxes in order to create this vision of the economy, there's a disconnect from what we know from social science about how that happens. from your perspective, is that the way to create a vision you just articulated? >> the fact of the matter is the best state of business is texas. texas has very low taxes. i don't think that's coincidence. number two or three is utah. again, they have low taxes. where there's stagnant business growth is new york. they have high taxes. so, i think -- i question the premise that you are working on. >> josh. >> i think we somewhat overstate the ability of the government to shape the nature of the economy here. do we want category killers? it's not something
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Oct 9, 2012 10:00am EDT
really understand where mitt romney stands on the issues. he talked about not taxing the wealthy. now he says he will tax the wealthy. he talks about energy independence now but didn't support the president on his programs to create alternative forms of energy for our country, which this president did. he talks about tax changes to help business development. who did that? president obama, with 100% tax credit in manufacturing, for example, which has just sizzled across the industrial midwest with the business start-ups that we see. even art furnaces being installed on the ohio republic steel. we haven't seen this in two decades. so, he can talk as a candidate, but the president has done it in a very difficult situation that he inherited from the bush administration, where the whole country's economy collapsed because of those titans up on wall street that tied up the finances of this country, and literally, we've had the largest transfer of wealth in american history from main street to wall street. you think that mitt romney, who was a part of that culture, is going to change anything f
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Oct 10, 2012 6:00pm EDT
saying this about taxes. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people but it's not the case. >> it's not the case. the answer was on the up and up, right? >> there were so many misrepresentations, it's going to take me a while. number one, i said that we're going to cut taxes on everyone by 20%, including the top 1%. >> huh? well, that's odd. but the tax issue was probably a fluke. let's try his answer on regulation. >> regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work without regulation. >> it's essential. so essential that he's actually said this. >> this president has enacted job killing regulations. i'll eliminate them. >> regulation is so essential that it must be eliminated. but don't worry, he was playing it straight on coverage for pre-existing conditions. >> actually, it's a lengthy description but, number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> it's a lengthy descriptn. but the bottom line is pre-existing conditions are c
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Oct 9, 2012 6:00am EDT
loved it, i said it yesterday, i will say it today, i loved him saying i will not cut a tax that will raise the national deficit. now, everybody can obsess on his 87 -- and obsess on what he said during the primaries. but that sent a message to me, jim vandehei. >> of the philosophy. >> that that philosophy, a moderate philosophy, a conservative with a small "c" philosophy, that i'm not going to be a crazy ideologue, i'm not going to slash first and ask questions later. i'm mindful that we live in a global -- on a global stage. where investors are scared to death that the u.s. is going to sink deeper in debt. he's striking, though, he's striking the right tone for me. i know he's striking the right tone now for a lot of americans. i don't think you can overstate the importance of that new tone. >> well, and if he were to win, and i still think it's a big if, he would have a lot of flexibility, i think, to do what you were talking about three or four minutes ago on the show, which is do a global deal that's positions the united states to really sort of take advantage of this global slo
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Oct 14, 2012 12:00pm EDT
congress that will pass jobs bill. second, work on the deficit. third is tax reform and fourth is an immigration policy that makes sense. the reason i know these are good policies is because governor romney adopted three policies on the stage of the debate in the last debate. so i'm looking forward to the debate on tuesday night to see wh mitt romney we get. >> will you say president obama in the first debate, he didn't do a great job of establishing his policies in the first one. >> alex, i thought it was a tie. i understand most americans didn't think it was a tie and they thought president obama did not win the debate. i thought it was a tie. i think the president needs to get out there and be clear. and i agree with his analysis on the path of 270. >> you guys will end as being friends. that's nice. >> i'm trying to help it have governor out. >> i'm sure he appreciated it. >>> office politics morning joe style. a prediction on how this election might turn out from the hosts. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in ke
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Oct 10, 2012 5:00pm EDT
out on foreign policy and says, i'm strong, obama is weak. he says i won't cut taxes for the rich but everything up until then he he will. i'll just create a better economy by snapping my fingers now pip don't know how long he can get away with this, maybe until election day, but he's taking this position that it almost doesn't matter what he says as long as it sounds good at the time. >> cecile, let me ask you about, when you get up in the morning and worry about the possibility of this election going the wrong way from your perspective of a volunteer for obama, when you really think, and you have to talk to your best friends whom we care most about, when you tell pro choice women what they should fear from the next administration, should it be a romney administration, what is your concerns? what are the list of concerns you have? >> first of all, the thought that my daughters would have fewer rights than i do, or my granddaughters or other folks' children, women would literally lose the right to make their own personal decisions about health care, about having children is absolu
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Oct 9, 2012 5:30am EDT
, you got to deal with the fiscal cliff, the imf saying that combination of tax hikes and spending cuts could lock 4% of gdp growth in 2013. a message from our friends at the imf. back to you. >> also, i want to ask you about this story. "the wall street journal" reporting this morning, goldman sachsm turning their back on president obama. is this a trend an wall street this time around? >> this is a fascinating story. this is a real about turn. apparently two-thirds of -- or possibly three quarters even of goldman sachs employees were supporting financially president obama going into that campaign where he was initially elected. this time around, it appears that 70% are putting their money behind mitt romney. i think it's the continual presentation of attacks on bankers, on the financial sector, the blame being attached to them for the global financial crisis. i think people on wall street and in the city of london for that matter are frankly just had enough of hearing this, the blame game. they're putting their money where their mouth is. and that's mitt romney right now. back to
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Oct 12, 2012 1:00pm EDT
to medicare and tax policy that have been questioned. what about the differences over medicare, health care? he said that there were no -- that there was no study, no statistics that show increased costs in ryan one in the first medicare proposal which the congressional budget office says is not the case. ryan two is another issue. they were debating ryan one. do you think this is going to be a problem with seniors and the vote in florida and other key states? >> i don't think so. i think the romney ticket is winning on that issue and it's just uncontested that the administration takes money out of medicare, $700 billion to pay for obama care. you know, seniors understand that medicare needs to be reformed and there are reforms proposed from the left, reforms proposed from the right but they all have the point of saving medicare. making medicare stronger except what the president did with obama care. >> romney takes the same $716 billion out. the same number. >> the ryan plan is designed to make medicare stronger and it does it along the lines of medicare advantage and part d.
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